I intended to write this entry exactly a year ago, but laziness and resignation got in the way. And now we’re in the middle of the start of the next world war, so it’s somewhat more relevant. I will begin by a brief account of my understanding of ethno-cultural geography (here’s hoping it’s not too excessive, and not too brusquely offensive).
《Throughout the meeting, Hitler remained in a foul mood. After lunch, Halifax brought up his experiences as viceroy of India, where he had urged a policy of conciliation. Hitler, who had just related how The Lives of a Bengal Lancer was his favorite film, and compulsory viewing for the SS to show “how a superior race must behave,” rudely interrupted him.
A startled Halifax fell silent, as Hitler went into a rant:
“Shoot Gandhi! And if that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress; and if that does not suffice, shoot 200 and so on until order is established.”》
© Pat Buchanan – The Unnecessary War (sources: Roberts, Smith)
I would divide the Eurasian landmass into four great cultures – Europe, West Asia, India, the Sinosphere. Both India and China only ever expanded into South-East Asia (Chola, Ming, wokou). West Asia created immense empires under the Achaemenid Persians, Arab Rashiduns, Turkic Ottomans. Europe, however… Europe dominated the known world multiple times – in the Indo-Germanic conquest of Eurasia millennia ago, in the Alexandrian and Roman empires more recently, and in the industrial subjugation of the planet by the Europeans a century ago. This is the background of the current stormy history.
In 1914, the planetary supremacy of the West was complete. So much so that, it seems, the Asian races, from the Turks to the Thais, were in a comatose state, awaiting the finishing blow… a blow that never came.
Instead, the sister empires of Europe proceeded to turn one another to bloody shreds in epochal internecine wars. Thence emerged a triad of great ideologies that gripped the imagination of all people.
…It must also be specified that since the demise of Rome, Europe gradually fell under the spell of the Christian religion. Its message of love towards foreigners only grew stronger with the advent of the industrial age, enabling this cultural cancer to metastasise, so to speak…
1. Germany was completing its long-burgeoning apostasy from Christian mercy under A. Hitler. It, however, went to war too soon (see: Genoud, 1945-02-14), and thus brutally awakened the military feeling of its relatively-asleep neighbours on both sides. Savagery met savagery, and the sword-wielder was vanquished by the sword. Germany fell in 1945.
2. Russia lost the war to Germany in 1917, first disintegrated in a liberal revolution, then the Marxists succeeded in rebuilding the state anew through a monstrous civil war. Marxism is arguably a humanistic universalist offshoot of Christian ethics, with a focus on technological advancement, achieving world peace, and improving material conditions. Marxism would press on to save Russian statehood again from the Hitlerian German invasion, then to send the first man into space, and would then pathetically lose the culture war to the Americans without a shot fired. Russia fell in 1991 (and hasn’t regained its sovereignty since, as of 2022).
3. And finally, America. The perfect, impregnable fortress, with oceans for moats. Colonised by the Anglo-Saxon stock at the peak of the European culture, during the Enlightenment era. Bestowed upon a century of peaceful expansion, of acquiring its own boundless Lebensraum in the West. Its tragedy, however, was in the total triumph of the Christian moral system in its midst, with not a single competing ideology in sight.
The first bell of impending doom was the American Civil War. No matter how modern racists may cope, it was neither a war about state rights, nor did any Jews give any recognisable impetus to the conflict. No, as Dr. Robert Morgan points out beautifully on the Unz Review, it was the first tangible sign of Christian dominance in the American cultural life. If the martial, pagan Romans had to wage a civil war not to grant citizenship rights to their traditional allies in war (the Social War, 91-87 BCE), the American Christians went on to bloody civil struggle in order to equalise the most debased foreigners with themselves – precisely the heart of the Christian message of love (“the last shall become the first”, earthly strength is evil, Galatians 3:28, etc.).
My next bullet point will be about the conduct of the Americans in their colonies. In my view, an attentive observer would have been able to see already in the 1930s the ephemeral nature of the Western-style empires. Let’s take the Philippines, conquered by the Americans in 1898, and Poland, vanquished by the Germans in 1939.
Philippine population (1903 > 1939) = 7.6 mil. > 16 mil. (+8.4 mil.)
Polish population (1938 > 1946) = 34.8 mil. > 23.7 mil. (-11.1 mil.).
Thus, using this undisputed statistic, we can deduce that all the Christian American Empire has ever done is increase the population of foreign nations wherever it went. This same pattern would continue in Japan, in Iraq, in Afghanistan. Sure, the initial conquest may employ excessive violence – after all, American military might is astronomically supreme. But during peace-time, the Christian mercy of the American culture will do its work, undoing all the visible successes of their material capability.
This, in a nutshell, is my view of the world. And my response to anyone talking about “American interests”. Geopolitics is moot if a given subject of history does not act in its own self-interest – not merely making honest mistakes without a perfect knowledge of future outcomes, but with an outright sabotage of its place in the sun. Again, an intellectual experiment – would Adolf Hitler als Führer Amerikas have ever been able to lose world supremacy as America enjoyed it in 1945? Would America have allowed China to industrialise in the 1980s, at America’s cost? Hell, would America have allowed the Japanese to live on their archipelago, instead of colonising it for itself?..
And so comes the end of the American Empire, the most illustrious one, quelled by its own hand. And with it, the ending of the history of the Occident, entangled with the fate of the Washington élite. America may still conquer the last vestiges of the Eastern European Russian heartland, as I anticipate, but it will merely forestall the inevitable by a decade, if that. The future will belong to the three remaining Asian cultures – from the Turks to the Juche Koreans.
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You’re right about white genocide but your take on Christianity is retarded and Jewish, and your gamertag “Adonai” is Hebrew.
Christ is King, and white genocide doesn’t come from Christianity. Remember the crusades? White genocide comes from atheists. The earliest liberals, the Rosicrucians, were merely an atheist black mass. The secret of Free Masonry is atheism; all of the US Founding Fathers were Free Masons. For 400 years atheists and non-Christian Jews have spread the seeds and practice of white genocide, while Christians have stayed fruitful and kept multiplying and have always resisted this force. White genocide is highly un-Christian; it is extremely hateful of your neighbor and is literally an attack on God’s chosen people (Christians, ie those who have been Christians for 2000 years) by outside forces.
Oh look, a fully-fledged schizo! Don’t get me wrong, I would take a schizo over a normie any day of the week.
> “…and your gamertag “Adonai” is Hebrew.”
Every single time – how come you even recognise Hebrew in the first place? My nickname comes from Tolkien’s Legendarium, and you would know it if you googled it with the circumflexes.
> “…white genocide doesn’t come from Christianity. Remember the crusades?”
Yes, I remember the crusades – the original wars for Israel, utterly useless to the European cause.
> “White genocide comes from atheists.”
Hitler was an atheist (pure biological materialism). There is no atheism in America – or one wouldn’t be shunned for calling Jesus a dirty Jew.
> “The secret of Free Masonry is atheism; all of the US Founding Fathers were Free Masons.”
See, this is where I take a stance against conspirology. Conspiracies are not necessary to explain the current suicide of the West, when every normie can tell the good from the evil in the most minute detail. I deal in culture wars.
> “…while Christians have stayed fruitful and kept multiplying and have always resisted this force.”
Actually correct… with the caveat that those Christians are mostly the Negroes in Africa, and the Aztecs in Mexico.
> “White genocide is highly un-Christian…”
Hitlerian Germany and Bolshevik Russia were less Christian, and more conducive to Aryan survival. America is the most Christian nation, and gave the world homosexualism, transvestitism and miscegenation.
I would go as far as call the Calvinist Judaism of the American settlers as functionally pagan, and the Islam of the Kosovar Albanians as closer to Aryan racism.
Ridiculous drivel written by a pompous stupid gypsy with way too much time on his hands seeking to please a senile Mexican.
A cute gender-bender Morales, ayaya?
Did you get my reply to your email?
First things first, I hope you will share one day your book on female beauty – I would be interested in reading your view in full, and would be unfortunate if the work of your years were lost.
Regarding suffering – I don’t really understand what the fuss is about. Virtually the only (but huge) concession to your and Chechar’s worldviews I would personally make would be a right to [painless?] suicide. I think, it would be a nice compromise that would benefit everyone involved. Or a more conservative addition, time-gate it behind reaching some low rank in the Party, an equivalent of a month’s worth of pubic works, to weed out the morons.
The conditions as I see them are such that only power counts. Existence for its own sake. Success as a measure of success. If humanity or life on Earth disappeared, nothing would change beyond them – the rocks have no ideology. Conversely, if a race goes extinct, another will take its place.
In this way, I view myself as a rock. I have no other ideology than existing. Chechar, Mauricio and Joseph Walsh would rather crack the rock open. I see it as irrelevant. A rock may as well want to die (in our case), but the rock’s fate is only relevant to the rock, not to some 《ideal of no suffering》.
Don’t get me wrong, our stupid rock brains need a modicum of skillful manipulation – but both the Judaic Calvinism of the 17th ct. and the Checharian Four Words maxim (4 is my number, goddamnit) would work, function-wise, to stir the hearts of the people towards genocide. But that doesn’t say much – people will kill one another relatively merrily, in proper time (after some breathing room) – unless you outright suppress their desires with a blanket ban on murder, as is the case in this wretched neo-Christianity.
I guess, I reject the overall monotheistic notion of the divine – a notion that Chechar subscribes to. Thus, I may be viewed as a polytheist or an atheist, a local moral relativist – moralities are mere tools to achieve such ends that bring the most power and growth (which would be morally absolutist, with the caveat that rocks don’t preach sermons).
All in all, I’m an autistic male par excellence. It is foreign to me to throw tantrums befitting a hysterical woman – part and parcel of being a normie. Yes, even Chechar is a normie in this model, because he dishes out buzzwords like no tomorrow.
I fail to see the difference. The cute Russian YouTuber Sofa Legion Strategist (Стратег Диванного Легиона) is comfortable with calling a nuclear option against the Ukraine “inhumane”. Chechar has a mental breakdown when suggested that the Holodomor didn’t happen. Normies react like this to Holocaust denialism. Normie, normie, normie – what an amusing creature it is!
This is why my personal conduct is the closest to… 《detached magnanimity》. I can freely engage with the most debased of the femboys without suffering an apoplectic attack myself. At the same time, I will be doomed to triggering anyone and everyone on the mildest of pretexts.
Of course, the normie is necessary for the society to function properly, I don’t entertain fantasies of normie-free reality. And the normie isn’t the issue – the issue arises when normies pose as free-thinkers. Meanwhile, the actual question lies in how to shape the cultural alchemy of the nation. Normies are but minions of 《gods》 – of cultures, religions and ideologies. Lucky was Hitler – his German culture had already undergone the transition towards apostasy without his input!
P.S. I have to clarify again that I view the current age as decisive for the races of hominids on the planet due to the recent emergence of industrial technologies enabling world wars and genocides of titanic proportions. The final solutions of the Armenian, Jewish, Russian, Aryan, American, femoid questions, and so on.
> Once when asked to comment on the meaning of the French Revolution, Mao Tse-tung said, “It’s too early to tell.”
© Bruce Cummings – Korea’s Place in the Sun
And so it happens that the farthest shore of Juche Korea may be the land most predisposed to strike and conquer.
Regarding alchemy – even poisoning an arbitrary river might lead to unforeseen consequences.
(Mind you, to me, the Order is a hallowed, ancient river, from its serving as a Germano-Slavic boundary, to the last stand of the Hitlerians against Bolsheviks on it in 1945.)
I’ve never opposed euthanasia, whether it be voluntary or involuntary. I would rather people not be born in the first place though, so that it doesn’t have to come to that. It’s never a pleasant thing to have to go through.
César and the Führer both demonstrate the same cognitive dissonance as Richard Dawkins when it comes to nature. They both want to worship her, but at the same time they know she has a black heart. Yes, you can find much that is cosmetically pretty in nature, but it’s only ever skin deep. You scratch the surface just a little, and like Inmendham says, you will find that it’s the biggest bar of fool’s gold on earth. Nature is not worthy of veneration, and neither is our species.
I have wondered if the Holodomor could have been exaggerated in a similar manner as the Holocaust has been exaggerated. The 100 million deaths that are often ascribed to communism does seem like it might be embellished, but I don’t really know enough about it to comment.
> “They both want to worship her, but at the same time they know she has a black heart.”
Beautifully put. I have a hunch that a pantheistic morality of amor fati would direct man to align his morality with that of Nature. This is why I would indeed view Hitler’s vegetarianism as schizoprenic – let alone the Checharian preoccupation with suffering, which is purely idealistic (killing certain animals because he doesn’t like them – even Savitri Devi liked cats, who are cruel).
> “Yes, you can find much that is cosmetically pretty in nature, but it’s only ever skin deep.”
Oh, this is never my argument! I don’t understand such sensibilities. Suffering? Pleasure? All nonsense. The only thing that matters is existence – if you don’t kill, you will get murdered, and that’s it.
This is what I intuitively grasped when years ago I called a Somali rapist as a better human being than an Aryan. Something right-wing normies and left-wing Christcucks could never utter.
> “Nature is not worthy of veneration, and neither is our species.”
Yeah, that’s a question. My direction is to make such a memetic culture that would further the interests of my genetic material. Cut off everything that does not target that goal. But it shouldn’t necessarily mean “venerating Nature” – normies are able to make a religion out of anything, the essence is inconsequential, the only thing that matters is the behaviour. If the Aryans rediscover their vitality due to larping as Jews, and kill foreigners because those… drink unicorn blood? Yeah, that might work, I wouldn’t mind, normies are retarded anyway.
> “The 100 million deaths that are often ascribed to communism…”
A clearly braindead lie. But normies gobble it up – just like they never commit suicide. Normies can’t really formulate thoughts, they speak in low-information-bandwidth pheromones. What irritates me is when otherwise-thoughtful humans turn into normies under certain stimuli – like those Christian scientists, or racist anti-communists.
An honest, alien-like observer would clearly see the success of Stalin’s methods in his victory in WW2. Hitler didn’t care to win the war, he didn’t even try to mobilise the industry for total war’s needs – while Stalin immediately relocated Soviet industry deep into the country, and proclaimed everything for the front, everything for the victory.
And regarding the deaths – Pol Pot’s unorthodox non-Communism could serve as a curious window into a day of the rope scenario. Kim Il Sung’s Juche is a luminous example of what a Hitler-worship should look like in an Aryan empire. Brilliant examples – totally unused because of Papua-style taboos. Just like with preventing global warming via genocide is for the greens, or how denying the population-reduction agenda is for the conspiratards – useless to engage them about.
> “I would rather people not be born in the first place though…”
But how would a free-thinker kill all normies? Those creatures are resilient. And the free-thinkers might be lazy, stupid, traitorous (like myself), or not sufficiently free-thinking.
Life will always triumph (at least, for the next 100 mil. years). Thus, my curiosity belongs to which of the races inherits the planet. Calling Nature “unworthy” is moot – the conqueror is worthy by every definition. History happens.
Suffering and pleasure are my only criteria for judging life. I have always said, if we’re not enjoying ourselves, then what is the point? César seems to believe in perpetuation for the sake of perpetuation, whereas I question the purpose of perpetuation if the quality of existence is inherently bad. We evaluate this in evolutionary terms, but there are admittedly more abstract thought processes at work in our evaluations also.
While evolution has not revealed to us the ultimate origin of life or solved the hard problem of consciousness, it did reveal to us, for the first time, that our origins were not divine and that man was not created to fulfil any destiny. Although humanity has only partially digested the reality of a deterministic universe, to the extent that we have internalised this knowledge, it has inflicted irreparable trauma on our subconscious mind. There has been a continued failure among classical liberals like Dawkins and Harris, and also among many of our own biological determinists, to appreciate this. After such a momentous paradigm shift, our world could never be the same again, precisely because it was no longer *our* world.
Darwin single-handedly dispelled the creation myths which had sheltered us from such an unbearable notion since time immemorial. Now that the anthropocentric model of the universe which faith was built on had been rendered utterly untenable, we could no longer sustain the illusions necessary to continue life as we had known it, though for some time we remained only semi-conscious of this. There was a naïve optimism among many social reformers during the early stages of the transition, who embraced the new evolutionary ethos with great enthusiasm, at least at first. Its deeper implications, which would so undermine man’s will to live in the decades to come, were not yet apparent. The ideas that would eventually coalesce into Nazism were developed during this time of unprecedented change.
As the years went by and the power of organised religion began to erode, Marxism competed with eugenics to win the hearts and minds of the people. While both were promising to deliver a utopian future, they intended to get there via very different means. Marxists claimed that manipulating the social environment would eradicate inequality, while eugenicists sought to cut off the problem at the root by halting the transmission of undesirable genetic traits. With its unshakeable conviction that we could use evolution to forge our own destiny, Nazism was the lifecuck ideology par excellence, affirming the struggle for existence with greater determination than man had ever mustered before. But it was all in vain. Instead of heralding a new era, it proved to be the last gasp of a dying civilization.
In the ensuing decades, the narrative of the Second World War as a herculean effort to defeat the ultimate manifestation of evil became set in stone. To be the antithesis of Hitler in every way became the paragon of virtue for all white people, and the nascent science of genetic hygiene was tossed into the trashcan of history without having demonstrated a modicum of its potential. The memory of the Nazis became a moral cudgel, a tool to browbeat any whites who still dare express ethnocentrism into submission. This has cultivated ethno-masochism and pathological altruism in whites all over the world, facilitating their destruction at the psychological and demographic level.
Although I share fascism’s disdain for democracy and the concept of rotational governance, I feel that my commitment to ethical anti-natalism prohibits me from fully embracing fascism. On the micro scale, it is correct about many things, but on the macro scale, none of it really matters. Life is awful and then we die, obliterated for eternity. Once you accept this, all other considerations and commitments become fairly meaningless. I don’t think there are any real solutions, political or otherwise, to human problems. I think they are endemic to our species and will always be with us. The real problem, I think, is that humans exist at all. The mistake at the heart of Hitler’s vision is the attempt to perfect that which is inherently and irredeemably flawed.
While some of the reasons for the regime’s failure were circumstantial, Hellstorm is a wake-up call, one that has gone unheeded by people like César. In the end, was it really worth it? It would be profoundly indecent to say yes. His belief that we can (and should) do it all again, despite the tremendous human cost, is a clear indication that nothing has been learned. The forces of entropy destroyed Hitler’s dream, as they will always destroy any attempt to extract order out of chaos. César is wedded to a macho worldview that will never permit him to accept this, and so future generations would be roped into existence to perish under the most appalling circumstances, all to feed his ego. I came to realise how monstrous the white nationalist fertility cult is, though not for the same reasons that liberals find it monstrous.
Because the lives that turn out extremely bad weigh more than the billions of lives deemed “okay” or the paltry few deemed “exceptionally good” (by restrictive human standards), we are obliged to focus on the most wretched cases. Was the joy and prosperity that Hitler initially brought to his nation worth the torture endured by the Germans after the war? An ethno-nationalist is by definition a natalist, and he would therefore be forced to concede that such tragedies are, in his view, a price worth paying in order to continue our race. It would feel very unpleasant to openly admit this, no matter how passionate one might be for the cause. His continued support for the creation of white children after hearing about such atrocities is in itself an indirect confession that he doesn’t care all that much about the suffering of our people, at least not to the extent that he would renounce the natalism inherent to the movement.
We see a parallel to this in the attitude that Hitler himself expressed towards the German people during the closing days of the war. His priorities as his empire crumbled included the execution of “deserters” trying to flee the devastation of Berlin and hanging them from lamp posts with placards proclaiming their cowardice, which would indicate that he didn’t really care about his people as much as he claimed. They were simply a means to an end. His plans to destroy what infrastructure remained, as stipulated in his Nero Decree, at the expense of the welfare of his people, whom he said had failed to fight the war with sufficient tenacity, confirm that his ego was the determining factor in his decisions as Führer.
Given the merciless nature of the void, the certainty of suffering and the finality of death, I can no longer bring myself to condone procreation. My conscience will not allow it, as my compassion for our people comes before my desire to see us “win” nature’s absurd gladiatorial tournament. A ferocious desire to win for the sake of winning, for vengeance and justice at any price, no matter how many white lives it costs, is what really motivates our movement. After many discussions, I was forced to conclude that white nationalism is not as concerned with the welfare of our people as it claims. I have asked, how can we ethically justify bringing a white child into a world where they can be Hellstormed? An answer is never provided, and on several occasions the supposedly pro-white individual became markedly agitated and, in an astonishing reversal of principle, dismissed the suffering of prior (and even current) generations of whites. The welfare of our people ceases to be important for the white nationalist once they realise that it can be used to argue that creating white children is to condemn them to the significant possibility of immeasurable suffering and the absolute certainty of death. We are all ultimately just organic machines, replicating for the sake of replicating, with no genuine autonomy or purpose. I could never bring myself to condemn a white child to such an awful fate.
I realise, of course, that only the most intelligent, conscientious individuals (mostly whites) will be persuaded by the anti-natalist message, leading to the proliferation of the selfish and callous (mostly non-whites). The teeming masses, swarming over the planet like flies on a dung heap, will inevitably perish under the weight of their own incompetence, having destroyed the hand that fed them and allowed their populations to reach such obscene proportions. Their fate doesn’t concern me, though. I am only opposed to the suffering of the innocent. I suspend my objection to suffering in cases where a person is needlessly unpleasant enough to prove themselves worthy of it, as in the case of many an untermensch by the mere nature of their being.
Regardless of the efforts of ethical anti-natalists like myself, the white man will likely go extinct at some point during this century. But if the world is truly as bad as Professor Benatar and I believe it to be, is it really such a loss for us as a race to depart it and leave our enemies to inherit this living hell? We have to make a choice between the truth of anti-natalist conclusions, or our sentimental and ego-driven desire to see the white race “flourish” in a universe that is utterly hostile to it and demonstrates a favouritism towards lesser forms of life. I confess that adhering to these two worldviews simultaneously does create some cognitive dissonance. I suppose it is mein kampf.
I think these kind of philosophical arguments are really just waste of time, yours and the readers’. Nations born, nations die. Celts ruled the entire continent before buttfukked by Rome. Rome conquered the entire continent, then buttfukked by everyone. The old Aryan world believed in the cycles. There can be no constant. The river flows. What is going to happen, will happen when it is big and obvious enough.
BG 2.27: Death is certain for one who has been born, and rebirth is inevitable for one who has died. Therefore, you should not lament over the inevitable.
I don’t know where are you on your beliefs (I’m not going to read this whole ass comment of yours) but what’s good is we face what the Spartans call “a beautiful death”. We face more than all of our ancestors did. Talking pessimistic is easy when you don’t act yourself, when you don’t have a family to protect and have no responsibilities. Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one. (Not entirely targeted on you, just my two cents.)
> “The old Aryan world believed in the cycles.”
Everyone did. This almost led to the extinction of the non-Japanese part of the Mongoloid race. The Industrial Age has changed everything. Now, the fate of Aryandom is inextricably woven together. There will be no barbarians from the North anymore.
> “BG 2.27”
The Bhagavad-Gita was written by another Aryan failure, the Hindus. Nothing but failure.
> “We face more than all of our ancestors did.”
There is no “we”. Germany & Russia lost in the past century. America is Yeshua’s land.
> “Talking pessimistic is easy when you don’t act yourself, when you don’t have a family to protect and have no responsibilities.”
Those who have families usually don’t talk at all – they obey the Jew. It comes down to the schizos to discuss culture.
> “Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.”
Individualism is death. It would be more prudent to cast one’s lot with Ernst Toller, Lukashenko, or, indeed, A. Hitler, than squabble over minutiae. The issue is that I’m neither a time-traveller nor a Belarussian.
You know I just genuinely wonder why would you write these long articles and then give these long responses to almost every comment…not just here but everywhere you’re on and have been. CC, Reddit etc. I mean, why do you even bother? How do you even find the patience?
What’s CC? Someone’s been impersonating me on Counter-Currents?
Are my comments long? I wouldn’t say so. Or at least, they don’t compare in their quality to the real learned people (or comments thereof) whom I don’t hope to imitate.
Why do I write at all? That’s a good question. I naturally strive for an intellectual debate, for achieving a better understanding. The unfortunate thing is that most people are normies shying away from an honest conversation – so I have to bite whenever anyone engages.
And of course, my natural aversion to prolonged communication doesn’t help, so again, I have to capitalise. (Not that I would ever lose interest to this particular topic, this one is a constant.)
There also are two more things – I try to take an opponent’s ideas as a whole, without missing a detail. Second, I don’t engage in topics which I don’t have a strong sense of being correct about. Talks of economics and political squabbles bore me – whereas the shorthand to cultural taboos feels like striking at the heart.
Therefore, it is natural for me to ask the Russophiles,
> “How is it inhumane to win a war?”
Of course, my general Darwinian ideology of racial struggle does require real-world examples. This is why I constantly draw upon the Armenian genocide and the Holocaust, and, more recently, the Champa, Rohingya, Bosnian, Assyrian genocides. On the Japanese plans of Pacific domination. And, surely, the greatest of them all – the Manifest Destiny ideology of the Americans.
> “Suffering and pleasure are my only criteria for judging life.”
The death of the collective is the only criterion for judging an individual’s life.
> “…I question the purpose of perpetuation if the quality of existence is inherently bad.”
Rocks don’t have feelings. Humans are rocks. Humans don’t have feelings.
> “After such a momentous paradigm shift, our world could never be the same again, precisely because it was no longer *our* world.”
Did the Egyptians suddenly become atheists upon that “realisation”? Nobody on this planet gives a fuck. They continue living as they always lived – as thralls to their particular god. (Because they are normies.) The only issue is that my people’s god remains Yeshua. I would much rather prefer Hitler or Kim Il Sung.
> “Its deeper implications, which would so undermine man’s will to live in the decades to come, were not yet apparent.”
LOL. Intellectual considerations do not sway any man’s will.
> “Instead of heralding a new era, it proved to be the last gasp of a dying civilization.”
Because the Hitlerians miscalculated their war. There is little deeper meaning to it. (You can say that Hitler was too short-sighted in 1939, and too scared of house-wives in 1941, but those are details.)
> “In the ensuing decades, the narrative of the Second World War as a herculean effort to defeat the ultimate manifestation of evil became set in stone.”
…And before that, the Sermon on the Mount was set in stone. WW2 changed nothing in the West. In the 1900s, the Americans failed to genocide the Philippines – in the 1940s, Japan.
> “…the nascent science of genetic hygiene was tossed into the trashcan of history without having demonstrated a modicum of its potential.”
I have to agree. Not to contradict myself, 1945 did clear the conscience of the West, so to speak – vanquished every other potential alternative culture (even though I wouldn’t call them competitors, they were ridiculously weak anyway.)
> “Life is awful and then we die, obliterated for eternity. Once you accept this, all other considerations and commitments become fairly meaningless.”
Define “accept”. Saying words is not accepting shit. I would define such internalisation as good old suicide – the same way as I would define atheism as burning Christians in a church. (Real-world examples – the murder of Christians in Joseon Korea, the burning of General Sherman.)
> “The real problem, I think, is that humans exist at all.”
Man is merely the most advanced of Nature’s energy-manipulating machines.
> “The mistake at the heart of Hitler’s vision is the attempt to perfect that which is inherently and irredeemably flawed.”
This is a good idea of yours! This is why my personal ideology is comically stupid – kill all foreigners. “Personal improvement” is all bogus nonsense – let the future generations fight it out themselves.
Koreans before General Sherman didn’t know foreigners existed – now they do.
> “…Hellstorm is a wake-up call, one that has gone unheeded by people like César. In the end, was it really worth it? It would be profoundly indecent to say yes.”
They gambled, they lost. The only cruelty in Hellstorm was leaving a single German alive. The same goes for Japan – Japan is a hungry ghost, lost its total war, and the hordes of Sino-Koreans will drown the defenceless Japan in blood one day.
> “I came to realise how monstrous the white nationalist fertility cult is….”
Most babies in the Occident are now niglets, so don’t fret.
> “His continued support for the creation of white children after hearing about such atrocities is in itself an indirect confession that he doesn’t care all that much about the suffering of our people…”
You are making a semantic mistake – “people” are a hive, not a sum of individuals. Kim Il Sung did everything for his Volk… even though a few might have starved on his watch, teehee. Let the expendable perish! Those deaths are in the past – the Korean race is in the present.
> “His priorities as his empire crumbled included the execution of “deserters” trying to flee the devastation of Berlin…”
Now this is indeed the most shameful act of all of the NSDAP. Not because the traitors were hanged – but because the traitors existed. In the millions. The Holodomor won Stalin the war!
> “…in his Nero Decree, at the expense of the welfare of his people, whom he said had failed to fight the war with sufficient tenacity, confirm that his ego was the determining factor in his decisions as Führer.”
Ego? I genuinely fail to see any ego here. This is the part I like the most about the NSDAP – at least, Hitler drew the correct conclusions from the conduct of the war, the Aryan is a coward unworthy of life.
Of course, an even more sensible conclusion was that Hitler was a cuck with no children, no inheritance, no successor, literally having no hope in the future generations of his own Empire in 1938-39. I wonder whether François Genoud made up the quote in the OP (if so, we’re thinking alike; reincarnation, pls).
> “…is it really such a loss for us as a race to depart it…”
How do you explain your thinking as a racist here? When a Negro loves a fair woman very much, their unholy progeny is no longer relevant in your eyes? Because they’re non-Aryan by law?
> “I am only opposed to the suffering of the innocent. I suspend my objection to suffering in cases where a person is needlessly unpleasant enough to prove themselves worthy of it, as in the case of many an untermensch by the mere nature of their being.”
Ah, you responded in the previous paragraph, somewhat.
> “…our sentimental and ego-driven desire to see the white race “flourish” in a universe that is utterly hostile to it…”
Sometimes I’m in the feminine mood to cheer people up. Here, I could say winning through a nuclear holocaust would induce objectively less suffering than leaving a race of half-European Aztecs to proliferate in perpetuity.
> “…I can no longer bring myself to condone procreation. […] as my compassion for our people comes before my desire to see us “win” nature’s absurd gladiatorial tournament.”
What is my stance on it? I guess, I’m jealous of the Juche Koreans, and of my parents who were lucky to see the divine light in Brezhnev’s eyes. Jealousy – why can the Iranians and the Afghans have it so good? And the Europeans of the yesteryear?
Back in late 2013 (or early 2014?), I made a small proclamation at the behest of my school teacher, asking my class mates not to skip school for the sake of the Euromaidan revolution. I consider this microscopic event as morally just. In private, I wished Yanukovich had burned the Western protesters in Kiev with flamethrowers…
There is an aesthetic quality to my world-view. Loyal warriors dying for their lord are always beautiful – even when mistaken. But even treason may be admirable.* What is not excusable, however, is what lowers the feeling of power.
For without power, nothing exists.
*Yes, even Paulus could have had a bright future, had the German Communists actually been able to create a lasting country. This is why I was so torn between Bashar al-Assad and ISIS. However, the reality of Aryandom is the Long Defeat.
Well, as I said, we are human beings. We are and always will be a product of evolution, but we also have more abstract motivations, derived from consciousness. This is what separates us from all other animals. Yes, we are nature’s most advanced energy-consuming machine, but is that what we wish to be? Would we *choose* to be what we are, with all these pathetic limitations imposed upon us? Never.
We are made of the same constituent elements as the rocks, the same atoms, but the rocks are inanimate objects, not conscious entities. Rocks cannot suffer the torment of sentience or the physical degradation of existence. Rocks have no will of their own. They do not have desires.
The Ancient Egyptians never discovered evolution, so they never had to confront what they truly were. Only we, in the modern era, have had that dubious privilege. When I say we accept it, I mean to say that we consciously look the truth in the eye and don’t flinch. Accepting a horrible truth is one thing, but agreeing to live with it is quite another. As we can clearly see, much of mankind cannot accept it, and many of those who can accept it struggle to live with the implications. Evolution liberated us from the tyranny of conventional theology, but it burdened us with the knowledge that we live in the worst possible world.
Maybe it’s presumptuous of me to assume on behalf of others, but intellectual considerations definitely have an impact on my will. I recall a scene in a movie I saw many years ago, although I can’t remember what it was called or what it was about. The main character, a troubled young woman who is in therapy in some kind of rehab clinic, points to a poster on the wall. It’s a picture of the stars and planets in outer space, emblazoned with a trendy quote from everyone’s favourite space age humanist, Carl Sagan. “Look at that. Why would you tell some insecure, impressionable teenager that they don’t matter? Why the fuck would you do that? Jesus, and you wonder why kids today are so screwed up.” I do not remember the specific words, but they were humbling. They emphasised how small and insignificant we really are. The protagonist was not contesting the truth of the statement, mind you, merely pointing out the harmful effect it can have.
It’s true that the egalitarian rot had set in much earlier with the arrival of Christianity, but 1945 was the culmination of that 2000 year long metamorphosis. I know César thinks of it as “Year Zero.” It is a dividing line, the demarcation point for which we can speak of “before this” and “after this.”
I don’t see the contradiction between individualism and collectivism that so many others do. They are not mutually exclusive and naturally coexist. A collective is made up of individuals, after all. I will say, though, that the East Asian peoples certainly seem far more hive-like than Western societies, both historically and contemporarily.
Consider the Führer’s emphasis on capturing Stalingrad instead of Moscow. That was pure ego. It made no strategic sense. Many of those deserters who were hanged were not even combatants. They were just civilians fleeing for their lives. The Führer would insist, of course, that *every* German is a soldier in total war. I don’t believe the man was mad to begin with, but I believe he gradually became insane during the events of the war. He lost touch with reality and his priorities were absurd.
I don’t quite understand why you mention miscegenation, since i never alluded to it. When I talk of us departing as a race, I simply mean extinction via failing to procreate. Of course my blood still boils when I see an attractive white woman with a black man, or even an unsuitable white man. It’s a primal rage, one that can never be suppressed.
Anti-natalism does not necessarily present itself as a solution to be enforced upon the entire world. It can be a purely personal choice. I refrain from raping and murdering people, for example, but this obviously doesn’t stop rape and murder from occurring in the world. Would the case therefore be made that, because of this, I might as well go out and do it? I think not.
> “I very much doubt that any hyper-masculine übermensch could live on a vegan diet.”
> “…but is that what we wish to be?”
Do you want to be a butterfly?
> “…but the rocks are inanimate objects, not conscious entities.”
Say that to a rock, I dare you.
> “Rocks cannot suffer the torment of sentience…”
Normies can’t either.
> “As we can clearly see, much of mankind cannot accept it…”
> “Evolution liberated us from the tyranny of conventional theology, but it burdened us with the knowledge that we live in the worst possible world.”
Most of humanity doesn’t give a care in the world. My point was about modern Egyptians – do they have a preoccupation with existential questions about the [sic] god? Absolutely not. They don’t even register it. Theology is as alive as ever. Ask Salman Rushdie.
> “They emphasised how small and insignificant we really are.”
If I understood you correctly, the quote was by the woman directed against Sagan? If so, I’m familiar with this sentiment, and it is indeed deeply abhorrent and incomprehensible to me. My explanation – Christians. They love shrinking their dicks, so to say.
Meanwhile, any [other = healthy] ideology emphasises how large it is in the scope of things. The Germs used to build humongous towers all over the world to honour Bismarck. The Koreans have erected titanic bronze statues to their living gods. “Pale blue dot”, my ass.
> “…intellectual considerations definitely have an impact on my will.”
I had to clarify that by “will”, I meant the general physiological response (even though I’m simplifying and strictly speaking incorrect – intellect may indeed change some physiology). But generally, if you put a slice of pork before a hungry Muslim, he won’t touch it, but he’ll salivate. If you look a Mongoloid lady in the eyes, you will get hard. And no matter how much you’ve been describing your hatred of life, you still haven’t kicked the bucket.
Now imagine the normies who can’t even think they way you do. Literal brainless golems. They have it unimaginably easy. They will praise their dear suryŏng (Korea), they will lend their wife to their black Nigger (USA), they will kill their nearby infidel (Burma), and they will be happy.
> “I will say, though, that the East Asian peoples certainly seem far more hive-like than Western societies, both historically and contemporarily.”
I’m not sure whence this stereotype has come from. Looking at how Ukrainians/libtards/right-wingers behave these days, how the Bolsheviks sold the USSR in the 1980s, how Goebbels himself was moaning about defending the Anglo in 1944, I can’t help seeing a pattern of the worst hive behaviour.
Meanwhile, the Mongoloids managed to conduct the Meiji Revolution in the 1870s, upturning their societal order; the Chinese spent decades on bloody soul-searching; and the Koreans had a Return of the King moment with Kim Il Sung. The egregore of Christianity is irresistible in comparison. (Of course, they had it easier because of distance, geography is a bitch.)
> “When I talk of us departing as a race, I simply mean extinction via failing to procreate.”
> “…is it really such a loss for us as a race to depart it and leave our enemies to inherit this living hell?”
I must have misunderstood it then, for I took it as an observation of the current state of the Aryan that is getting bred out by the BBC. “We” are already “departing” – or, in any case, the coloureds will indeed inherit the planet. But your view is unrealistic – if the Aryan randomly chose to elevate himself to your intellectual level, he would have to muster strength equal to actually surviving.
> “…or even an unsuitable white man.”
Careful now, the fugly autistic incels will be the vanguard of the revolution, mark my words.
> “…I believe he [Hitler] gradually became insane during the events of the war.”
And Arien Morgoth feared with a great fear, but dared not come nigh her, having indeed no longer the power; for as he grew in malice, and sent forth from himself the evil that he conceived in lies and creatures of wickedness, his might passed into them and was dispersed, and he himself became ever more bound to the earth, unwilling to issue from his dark strongholds. With shadows he hid himself and his servants from Arien, the glance of whose eyes they could not long endure; and the lands near his dwelling were shrouded in fumes and great clouds.
© J.R.R. Tolkien – Quenta Silmarillion, Of the Sun and Moon and the Hiding of Valinor
(I actually read it first in the introduction to The Children of Húrin, in Little Russian, I’m not one of those redditards spreading cringe about the Silmarillion.)
> “He lost touch with reality and his priorities were absurd.”
I wouldn’t wholly agree, but Hitler did assume a role, acting it out till the end. Joachim Fest describes succulently how the Führer abandoned all his diplomatic acumen in 1939. In the end, he longed to die in a bunker in an epic fashion – which will not be appreciated by foreigners anyway.
In this respect, the Japanese played much better after losing – first, they scared the Americans shitless by actually not surrendering, then they did surrender, conning the Christcucks into preserving their Emperor. They even hanged Tojo to placate them, and thus gained a faint chance at rebirth.
(The Japanese hive-mindedness is quite curious – their living god was a mere figurehead, unlike with Hitler’s slaves, but they worked in unison like a school of fish, akin to different Muslims joining ISIS. I would call it a healthy, developed culture – unlike with the Germs who either obeyed Hitler blindly like morons, or outright tore Germany apart serving foreigners.)
Jesus fucking Christ, everything Adûnâi writes goes straight over your head, ain’t that so, Simon boy? Haven’t read such a cuckfest of a commentary in my life. You are a spiritual homosexual, how the hell can you not understand that no real man cares for individual suffering and your dumb jewish philosopher? Just kill yourself and leave us alone, I would do it for you with absolutely no remorse.
That’s the typical response I’ve come to expect, and proves my point beautifully. The pretence of masculinity is such a priority for the white nationalist that he will enthusiastically dismiss the suffering of his own people. Oh, never mind the Germans who were beaten, starved, raped, tortured and worked to death. Individual suffering doesn’t matter. Individual units are expendable. Only the hive matters. Fuck ’em, amirite?
Since you and César have confessed that you don’t really give a shit about the people you profess to love, you can stop using Hellstorm to further your cause. You are colossal hypocrites.
> “Individual suffering doesn’t matter. Individual units are expendable. Only the hive matters. Fuck ’em, amirite?”
Long ago, I asked myself whether an atheist could ever wing-clip his own intellect, and return to religious thinking. The answer – the question is irrelevant.
There is but one anti-natalist ideology. Certainly, a proper intellectual must consider its merits, as any other’s. This is why I see little wrong with introducing voluntary euthanasia – or females to the work-force, for that matter.
But an ideology explicitly aimed at eradicating all life? Be my guest. But you will inevitably need to create a specific machine for that purpose first – and how would you suppress its will to life? After all, even the Christian Empire has a ruling élite with a modicum of a self-preservation instinct.
> “no real man cares for individual suffering”
Are Hitler and Chechar not real men, either? An individual bunny’s suffering?
Idealism for an Aryan is what shit is for the flies – magnetic.
I would personally tolerate these insane cults only because proclivity for them seems to be hard-wired, and they may provide functional advantages.
But not going to hide it, hearing about anti-vivisection laws in the 1930s would have made me burst out laughing.
Animal rights are female rights are human rights.
It’s hypocritical of César and his friends, who are obsessed with the plight of animals to what some might describe as an effeminate degree, to suggest that I’m a “spiritual homosexual” for prioritising the suffering of our people. I also wonder, how was the Führer planning to provide sustenance for his master race? I very much doubt that any hyper-masculine übermensch could live on a vegan diet. How would César solve this conundrum, I wonder?
Pills? Ooh, that’s exciting. Hell, we might as well just eat bugs like Klaus Schwab wants. I heard about Hitler having the juice of pulverized bull’s testicles injected into him or something, but I have no idea if that’s true. It would certainly fly in the face of his love for animals.
Well, not a butterfly, but I’m sure that somewhere out there, in the vast, unchartered depths of metaphysical space, there exists some perfect conception of the human being. I can only speculate as to what it might be like. Hold on tight, we’re about to go on a tangent.
In this world, there is more for us to see than can ever be seen, more for us to do than can ever be done, and more for us to know than can ever be known. We spend the vast majority of our lives doing menial tasks, chores that we would never perform by choice, even if we had an eternity of time to spend. For that is what we truly yearn for, an eternity to spend in the world of our heart’s desire. One human lifetime is but a drop in the vast cosmic ocean. We are given an infinitesimal amount of time to spend doing the things we enjoy, in a universe where time is an inexhaustible commodity. The sheer scale of such wasted potential is painful to contemplate. We cannot feign ignorance of this, but still we blot it out from our minds. It seems regret at being *merely* human is a quintessential aspect of what it means to *be* human. We know that those qualities about ourselves that we hold so dear, our beauty, our genius, our knowledge and wisdom, will one day be lost to the churning entropy of the ever-expanding void. We are a naked flame in the dark, so fragile and ephemeral. We yearn to be recognized by some outside force that shares our appreciation of life’s wonders and our outrage at its horrors. We want so badly to be acknowledged by some being, or beings, who would reciprocate our understanding of reality and give us the external validation we so desperately seek. We wish, above all else, for those aspects of ourselves we so cherish to be preserved forever. Indeed, we can imagine such a realm wherein those qualities exist in abundance. What a joy it would be to dwell there for all time. I am steadfast in my belief that if there truly were a benevolent god, then that is the only world he would see fit to create. Anything less would be a degradation.
I have deduced that only complete nothingness would constitute absolute perfection, so therefore an optimally calibrated world of my creation could only ever be 99.99% perfect, since anything existing at all would disrupt the static harmony of nothingness, so I’d have to deduct 00.01% for that, even if everything else is perfect to an inconceivable degree. In any case, I have spent a considerable amount of my time imagining what that 99.99% perfect world would be like. Obviously this involves filtering out all the things about life I dislike while retaining and enhancing the aspects I do like. By far the most difficult thing has been deciding when and where to impose limits on my own omnipotence. It would be a world in which one never has to undertake a task one finds displeasing. This raises the issue of having “too much of a good thing”, which is a bizarre phenomenon that exists in our world. For reasons that often seem uncertain, we can become jaded with endless pleasure. A world with zero suffering and maximum pleasure would be a perfect world, and a perfect world would never contain such a bizarre paradox. In a perfect world, you would never become bored of endless positive experiences, let alone be concerned that existing just for the sake of existing is circular and nonsensical.
But there has to be some limit imposed on what you can and cannot do. For instance, you would not be able to change your sex, because that would then beg the question of who you really are. What is your true identity, your fundamental essence, that aspect of yourself that is fixed and unchanging? One encounters this same dilemma in the concept of reincarnation. But would one need biological sex, or any identity for that matter, in such a world? Good question, but obviously there will be aspects of the world I come from that influence my imagining of a perfect world. I cannot imagine new colours, for example. I am bound, to some extent, by the laws that govern the reality of my earthly origins. My imagination is constrained by nomological boundaries and evolutionary biology.
I have said before that the problem for the individual and for humanity as a whole is that almost everything about the world and how it works is in conflict with our will. The few positive experiences that keep us from killing ourselves are completely unintentional by-products. In a universe as macabre and merciless as this, it must surely be a miracle that they exist at all. While I do not believe a perfect world is actually possible, I clearly believe that it is conceivable, or else I wouldn’t be able to describe it. This world would be one in which we exist to experience pleasure as an end in itself. It is a world that is conscious of human desires and reciprocates them; we exist to enjoy pleasures, and pleasures exist aplenty for us to enjoy. While there are no states of deprivation, there are states of anticipation, but these are always satisfied with the intensity we expect.
The world we happen to live in, though, is full of indignity, frustration, and the tedium of monotonous chores which would seem intolerable to many if we weren’t so accustomed to performing them. A good example of the unintentionality of pleasure in our world would be food. In the most privileged countries, food has long since ceased to be primarily a matter of securing our body’s requisite nutrients. We eat for pleasure more than anything, hence why obesity, vitamin deficiency and autoimmune disorders are such prevalent problems in industrialised nations. Clearly it would be better for us if we could separate the basic utility of food from its hedonistic aspect, so we may enjoy the pleasure of food isolated from its fundamental value as a fuel source for our bodies. The reason so many unhealthy foods are irresistible to us is that their ingredients were rare and conferred some benefit in our ancestral environment, but refined sugars and carbs are not products that would have naturally been found in our ancestral environment. Even naturally occurring foods like fruit now contain five times the amount of sugar they did a century ago, and that’s simply from old fashioned selective breeding. Much like cosmetics, these engineered foods are hyper-stimuli for the primitive part of our brain, but our bodies are not equipped to process them.
In the ideal world, food would still exist, but it would materialise before us whenever we so desired, and its sole purpose would be to provide a pleasurable experience. The indignities of urination and defecation would not exist, as our bodies in this world, while appearing somewhat similar, would not function as organic machines as they do in our present reality. So much of our misery is exacerbated by our ability to imagine a world infinitely better than the one in which we are doomed to remain. We can see it in our mind’s eye, but we can never get there, and it torments us to the end of our days. I don’t think the vast majority of anti-natalists truly want nothingness. I think they want that perfect world, the one we should have had.
Man, that was a long one, wasn’t it? It’s tedious, I know, but sometimes it’s the only way to answer a question.
With regard to the rocks, I shall assume you’re kidding. Incidentally, did you know about that “pet rock” craze they had for a few weeks back in the 70’s? It was inevitable that somebody would try something like that at some point. How could you resist the urge to exploit such a gullible, braindead public?
I was only talking about the Western world. Of course, the implications of Darwin’s discovery have yet to permeate the backwaters of the Third World. As you know, though, they are infuriatingly slow to change. I’ve heard it said, possibly even by Rushdie himself, that the Muslim world is currently at the fanatical stage Christianity was at during the Crusades.
Yes, that’s correct. Are you calling into question the legitimacy of the pale blue dot photo, though? I’m not sure. I’m certainly open to the possibility that the moon landing was staged, but it’s quite a leap to go from that to saying that dinosaur fossils and the 4.5 billion year old Earth are fabricated. We must surely reach a point where the scepticism becomes too ridiculous to take seriously.
I don’t recall ever getting an erection over a non-white woman. Regarding my failure to commit suicide, at least up to now, I will again have to emphasise the distinction between lives worth starting (there are never any), worth continuing (of which there are many), and worth ending (of which there are some). Suicide, as Benatar so eloquently put it, is not really a solution to the human condition, but rather an extension of it.
I think the physical aesthetic of the Mongoloids – their bland uniformity in pigmentation and striking lack of diversity in physiognomy – is what has reinforced the perception of Asians as hive-minded in the eyes of Western man. Whether they are genuinely more collectivist in their behaviour, I cannot say for certain, but Hitler said on several occasions that the Slavs have a servile mentality, due to having miscegenated with Mongols, and yearn to be dominated. I’ll let you be the judge of that.
I don’t doubt for a minute that the salvation of Western civilization, to the extent that is possible (or even desirable), is a task that will fall upon a few eccentric, basement-dwelling autists. “Never has so much been owed by so many to so few”, etc. I’m not sure I would describe Hitler’s suicide in the bunker as epic, though. On the contrary, it was quite a pitiful way to go. I threw this back at César when he called me a coward for contemplating suicide. His hero committed the very crime for which he was admonishing me. He had no response, as usual.
This Autisticus guy, he really lives up to his username. But that’s okay. I will take autists and schizos over normies. And I was once like him. I wasn’t able to stop the thoughts in my head. I believed that if I write these long intellectual and gay textwalls, I’d feel good. But I felt good the moment I stopped them, stopped thinking. Then I acted. I went outside, went to the woods, lifted weights, shot some guns, trained with my buddies and just became a grug. Sometimes you just need Frazettan grug supremacism, a good solid Männerbund and some extreme brutal action. Lack of these leads to gay textwalls and Jordan Peterson philosophy time.
> “I believed that if I write these long intellectual and gay textwalls, I’d feel good.”
Every time I use toilet paper, I think of Simon Elliot. Every time I suffer in this terrible air temperature and humidity, I think of the anthropic principle. And every time I curse the human condition.
So indeed, I am an intellectual like himself, but the arguments are universally sound.
> “…lifted weights, shot some guns, trained with my buddies and just became a grug.”
The only boys in my area all worship the Jews. That’s another argument – I could well have coped in the Brejnevian era where I would have been sent to Kalmykia for wholesome race treason. Now the chaos is advanced, and fascism lost this side of Eurasia.
I guess, you win the argument because I couldn’t bring myself to reply to you over the past 4 days. Back then I was eating tomatoes grown by my mom and writing a reply, but then the browser crashed, I was attacked by mosquitoes, and lost the thread. Now I’ve again been telling my mom that she should have done the abortion two decades ago. Life’s good.
Aw, you remembered my name. How nice. Well, maybe give it another try. I would like to hear your answers.
> “Pills? Ooh, that’s exciting. Hell, we might as well just eat bugs like Klaus Schwab wants.”
Indeed, Chechar sees nothing disagreeable with using the wonders of technology in his sacred quest of the Four Words ironically, my favourite number, damn it, RNG). What’s so wrong about eating bugs, however? Never understood this normie outcry. (But hey, I consider Mongoloids a superior breed, go figure.)
> “For that is what we truly yearn for, an eternity to spend in the world of our heart’s desire.”
Indeed, humans are burdened with too expansive a consciousness. Or my correction to Zapffe and Ligotti – some humans.
> “It seems regret at being *merely* human is a quintessential aspect of what it means to *be* human.”
This is quite a hinge for your argument, but I don’t see it as starkly. Humans successfully find their “super-ego” in their religion or race.
> “We want so badly to be acknowledged by some being, or beings, who would reciprocate our understanding of reality and give us the external validation we so desperately seek.”
Do we? Do the Juche Koreans aspire to have a higher guide than Kim Il Sung? Are you not confusing ancient superstitions and Jewish faiths for the ideology of the future?
> “…will one day be lost to the churning entropy of the ever-expanding void.”
Again, what do you mean? The “heat death of the Universe”, hypothesised by modern physical science? That would still take trillions of years. But you even suggested that Hitler lost to entropy!
> “I am steadfast in my belief that if there truly were a benevolent god…”
Another part of your argument is this weird preoccupation with monotheistic gods. What’s even the point? Marxists with their economics, Christians with their gods… It’s all a trite and useless metaphor.
> “I have deduced that only complete nothingness would constitute absolute perfection…”
What the hell is this “perfection” you are speaking of? Again rotten theology. I choose to view the history of the planet as a historian, not as a terraformer. Harmony, nothingness – ever more buzzwords! Let’s call Ukrainians Nazi, Americans cruel, incels sad, and be complete in our idiocy.
> “The few positive experiences that keep us from killing ourselves are completely unintentional by-products.”
Again, I utterly disagree that normies even think of suicide. This idea is something I entertained as a teen – but since then, even my autistically-limited relations with real-world morons have taught me otherwise. This is as idealistic a nonsense as the tabula rasa hypothesis.
> “In a universe as macabre and merciless as this, it must surely be a miracle that they exist at all.”
This “miracle” is referred to as the anthropic principle.
> “This world would be one in which we exist to experience pleasure as an end in itself.”
All this preoccupation with the concepts of “pleasure” and “suffering” has always sounded so faggy to me, from Buddhism to Judaism. The crux of the matter is that humans don’t even pursue pleasure! They obey their dominant culture. That’s it. They wageslave, they fuck, and they kill if they’re lucky. Sometimes they kill themselves – look at the Ukrainians. And no, it’s not a philosophical suicide either, merely a failed culture. You are not describing actual humans.
> “Even naturally occurring foods like fruit now contain five times the amount of sugar they did a century ago, and that’s simply from old fashioned selective breeding.”
This is huge, thanks for almost ruining tomatoes for me. Chechar should compare tomatoes to foids’ tits (even though I personally prefer long legs).
> “We can see it in our mind’s eye, but we can never get there, and it torments us to the end of our days. I don’t think the vast majority of anti-natalists truly want nothingness. I think they want that perfect world, the one we should have had.”
This is a sound idea – again, a case of consciousness “overshooting its evolutionary target”. Can be used to manipulate people into building a strong state to fuck everyone else. Because that is the only reality.
> “With regard to the rocks, I shall assume you’re kidding.”
Yeah, I knew about pet rocks. Regarding my metaphor, I tried to emphasise how I prefer looking at humans as inanimate matter acting out some destiny divorced from an individual’s irrelevant tastes. I genuinely do not understand this sentiment worldview – either yours or Chechar’s. I’m used to thinking in terms of war, of triumph and of defeat of races and of creeds.
Incidentally, I find all the inane shitstorms over Communism’s applicability and feasibility boring. Communism to me is Russia’s survival in 1941 and humiliating death in 1991, not the “trillion muggles killed by Voldemort himself”. Unfortunately, it only means I will remain alone in any discussion, either pro or contra Communism.
I’m an anti-Marxist and anti-Christian par excellence. I object that humans strive for peace; I object that economy is destiny.
> “I’ve heard it said, possibly even by Rushdie himself, that the Muslim world is currently at the fanatical stage Christianity was at during the Crusades.”
Rushdie is a braindead moron, as expected. The Dar al-Islam has rediscovered itself after being at the edge of the abyss. The abyss that it was not pushed into due to the Aryan race’s death wish. The Aryans used to be as fanatical, with A. Hitler – oh wait, Rushdie is an ignoramus, and probably never mentioned the Führer’s name in his entire pathetic life.
> “Are you calling into question the legitimacy of the pale blue dot photo, though?”
No, I only meant it’s a case of the penis-shrinking fetish which I lack. Western neo-Christians love it, however. It is a deeply-unhealthy attitude to lessen one’s achievements, one’s hopes and one’s loves to a fucking microscopic picture. And it’s unscientific, too – cue the exponential growth fable. It is utterly inconsequential how small our planet is. It’s sufficiently large to dominate every rock in the Solar System – and maybe beyond (if it doesn’t lead to political fracture – then it would be forbidden).
> “I don’t recall ever getting an erection over a non-white woman.”
Chechar gets hard to white boys, that’s hyper-manly. On the other hand, define “non-white”? Would pictures of vaguely feminine shapes count as non-white? Are latex gloves race-treason because whites have white arms? How about purple eyes?
> “Regarding my failure to commit suicide…”
Yeah, I get it, but please, don’t fail to share your book. I haven’t had a chance to contemplate your unique argument vis-à-vis femoid beauty.
> “Hitler said on several occasions that the Slavs have a servile mentality, due to having miscegenated with Mongols”
It’s a weird meme that I can’t argue for or against for sure. If anything, I have an impression that the Russians are ridiculously freedom-loving and undisciplined – that’s what the Germans used to posit, too. Whereas true totalitarianism is in America, with their weird blend of sexualisation (cheer-leaders, naked boys showering, anal probing doctors) and prudishness, combined with a cult of violent films. Regarding the racial nature of Slavs – there are plenty of little shitty races in the east of Europe such as Dinaric or Baltic, or the Uralic Turko-Finns, that make the Mongoloids admixtures redundant to talk about.
> “I’m not sure I would describe Hitler’s suicide in the bunker as epic, though.”
And I find it hard to bring up anything more epic and fairy-tale-like from real history. Hitler’s suicide is my go-to argument against [admittedly, deaf] Marxists moaning about how wars are waged for the benefit of the élites who always remain safe.
Very few such cases indeed. As a lover of history, I would only compare it to such events as:
1) Alexander’s conquest of the world in 323 BCE;
2) Friedrich the Great’s victory in the Seven Years’ War (The Miracle of the House of Brandenburg – 1763 CE);
3) Mao Zedong’s liberation of China, followed up by his own son’s death in the first victory of the Mongoloid culture over the Christians (Mao Anying, Korea – 1950 CE);
4) Widaehan Suryŏng Kim Il Sŏng Janggun’s return of the king to Chosŏn from across the sea in Juche 34 (1945 CE).
I haven’t included Islam’s early conquests or Napoleon’s reign here due to the weakness of the Byzantine and Sassanid empires in the former case, and to the Frenchies’ confused political outlook in the latter. The Meiji Revolution in Japan was definitely an epochal achievement, too, but not of a military nature.
Whereas the whole pathway of Adolf Hitler was the last chance for the Aryan race to establish itself as the rightful ruler of the world contra the residual Christian faith. The final and most powerful outburst of Aryan energy in history occurred in 1941. It was not enough, yet it succeeded in awakening the latent energies of Russia and America – which brought doom upon Germany in 1945.
Adolf Hitler is one of the most important figures in world history. Adolf Hitler is the symbol of the downfall of Western Eurasia, the monstrous high end of Christianity. For truth be told, both the Anglos and the Russians were already dying. Germany was in the most unique position, 80 million people ripe for an anti-Christian revolution. Hitler’s failure will be referred to as the start of the eventual triumph of Islam and the Sino-Koreans.
Indeed, Hitler had no idea what he was. But he was so right! Nobody in the darkest nightmare could have imagined the horrors of the future deaths of Russia and America! Russia – dead without a shot fired. America – bred by the Big Negro Cock, figuratively and literally. As Chechar once put it, the conclusion of Christianity – as terrible as a birth of a chaos god. A clear argument for the primacy of culture.
In this regard, I’m a polytheistic atheist. It impresses my mind to see such vigour, such beauty in the land of Juche Korea, where gods descend to walk beside people, where myth and song are incarnated. Unlike you, I’m not searching for perfection in the realm of ideas, but merely pick such from reality.
> “…the salvation of Western civilization…”
I see no positive developments, only death throes. A constructive inquiry would be to question whether the current Mongoloids have preserved the spark from the latest axial age, 1914-45. The Juche Idea certainly seems to.
Can I ask why you think Mongoloids are a superior breed? I presume you mean there are some aspects about their psychology you regard as superior, rather than aesthetically. I’m not entirely sure what your nationality is. I would guess you are either Russian, Indian, or some variety of South-East Asian. I don’t recall you ever stating explicitly.
Yes, only some humans. That is true. Consciousness does not seem to be uniform or monolithic. If consciousness is like a dimmer switch, as some believe, then I think it’s fair to say that negroes are on the dimmest end of the spectrum. You do realise that César would exterminate all the Mongoloids though, right?
It has yet to be seen whether the diehard religions of old, or even the current vaguely defined “spiritual” inclinations of man, can ever be replaced. I suspect they cannot, but that doesn’t mean I’m in favour of religion of any description, of course. Incidentally, it seems I do have a tendency to speak for all humans. Maybe I ought not to do that. It seems to be a bad habit I’ve picked up.
Hitler was up against the forces of entropy, certainly. Much like me, he wanted an ordered world, one that made some degree of sense. The world, though, is naturally in a state of chaos, and this is a self-correcting (or perhaps I should say self-incorrecting) system. Any attempt to introduce order will backfire. It’s only a matter of time. It ultimately makes little difference whether the heat death of the universe is trillions of years away or hours away. In either case, everything inevitably comes to oblivion, and it will be as if nothing ever existed at all. I can’t imagine a greater ego-killer. We have to judge this experiment, or whatever you want to call it, by its end goal.
Well, as an atheist, I find it hard to conceive of god as anything other than an omnipotent entity. No other conception really makes any sense to me. Chalk it up to cultural impoverishment. Perfection, though, is simply a state of existence devoid of all undesirable scenarios and negative stimuli. That would be my definition, anyway, and apparently it would be most other people’s as well. The concept of paradise, which is almost universal, attests to that.
People will consider suicide if their prospects become dire enough, or once the quality of their life drops below a certain threshold. Do you think Hitler or Himmler ever imagined that they would end up dying by their own hand? I doubt it. Even the Japanese officers, who were accustomed to the tradition of honourable suicide, probably never imagined themselves doing it, since they believed in their victory so dogmatically.
Well animals pursue sex for the pleasure of it, not because they have a conscious desire to have children. I imagine humans are much the same with regard to many of their activities. People are either seeking gratification, seeking to alleviate a discomfort or and/or deprivation, or they’re doing something begrudgingly out of necessity. Which is better, the pleasure of taking a dump or the pleasure of never having to take a dump in the first place? I dunno about everyone else, but I’d prefer not to have to take dumps. I can’t stand the indignity. I mean, I know someone who began to develop dementia about two years ago, and I could tell you horror stories about what they get up to in the bathroom. I had to clean up after one such fiasco. It scarred me for life.
Regarding the Juche ideology, most people would say yeah, of course, who doesn’t want to be self-sufficient? Women, for one. Oh sure, they might think they want to be self-sufficient, but only because that’s what they’ve had pummelled into their heads by the fembots since the day they were born. It may have seemed great at first, but look at them now. Most of them who are self-sufficient are miserable, pitiful wretches. Then again, I suppose you could say that the Juche ideology has more in common with submitting to a powerful man than it does with the feminist idea of female self-sufficiency. Secretly, women yearn for a leader to follow. They want to be dependent on strong men, because it makes them feel like real women. Why else do so many women, particularly ardent feminists, have violent rape fantasies? Subconsciously, they want to be put in their place. Of course this seems masochistic and even a bit crazy to us, but that’s women for you.
If I recall correctly, Caeser believes that Greco-Roman pederasty is not homosexual because young boys can often look a bit effeminate, and therefore the urge Greco-Roman men felt to fuck them was motivated by a healthy heterosexual instinct. Is that correct? Well, it seems like quite a convoluted theory, and as I say, the lack of sexual dimorphism in their statues and frescoes suggests an overwhelmingly bisexual (if not outright homosexual) culture. I can talk with you in more detail about this, but it would have to be in private, via email.
Imagine if Hitler and his surviving officers had run out of the bunker, weapons in hand, and charged defiantly at the Soviets. It would be a futile endeavour, I know, but at least it would have been a death to remember. Just imagine the history books. “Most other leaders would have fled or shot themselves, but not the Führer. He charged fearlessly into hell’s teeth.” What a way to go.
Somewhat surprised to see you reply in such a timely manner – I guess, the timezones aligned? I’m a Galician Ukrainian Untermensch… and I can stop engaging in certain activities for weeks on end, making it hard to play MMO-RPGs, or uphold social relationships.
Regarding your pessimism – one thing I could never understand is the non-evolutionary ethics. Begetting life is “evil” to anti-natalism – so what? What changes if you call a racist de Sadean? Isn’t there a certain sense of Schadenfreude whenever you look at dumb kids shat out just as yourself by your idiotic parents? I know it’s not foreign to me. This is why human torture is such a touchy subject to me – I personally hate it, but there is a undeniable part of my own Weltanschauung that “clicks” with it.
> “Can I ask why you think Mongoloids are a superior breed?”
A simple look at history? Because we Aryans are dying off, while the Sino-Koreans are not? And unlike the pajeets, they are not covered in cow manure. Instead, they skin animals alive – that’s cruel and in-your-face based. Also, I’m under a huge impression by Juche Korea’s religious fanaticism, ethnic hatred, and female singing voices.
> “You do realise that César would exterminate all the Mongoloids though, right?”
And I would do that, too. I think, you’re misunderstanding me – I believe only one race may triumph and inherit this accursed planet. It could have been the Aryan – now it looks like it’s the Orientals. I hope they will leave no trace of the European civilisation. And you know, it’s not as unfeasible as one may think – I once found a Korean schizo who advanced Korean etymologies for European place-names such as Berlin. It is inevitable.
> “Hitler was up against the forces of entropy, certainly.”
Was he? It seems to me, he fought and lost to the forces of order in Russia and America – which he magnified and invigorated for a time being. The birth rate in France jumped to replacement levels for three decades after 1945.
> “Well, as an atheist, I find it hard to conceive of god as anything other than an omnipotent entity.”
As a hard materialist, the only things I would deem “gods” would be forces of nature and of culture. The rest is merely reality – of which man is the crown and the lord.
> “Well animals pursue sex for the pleasure of it, not because they have a conscious desire to have children.”
Modern Whites worship Negroes out of a conscious desire to fulfill Yeshua’s New Testament. So it’s not even the pleasure. Do the pregnant Muslim women fasting during the Ramadan and begetting retarded children do it out of pleasure?
> “Why else do so many women, particularly ardent feminists, have violent rape fantasies?”
And I don’t? I’m so desperate, I would’ve taken a manly kiss from Brejnev the Last European King. All that remains now is Sanna Marin cucking Finland on EuroNews (not even a joke).
> “Regarding the Juche ideology, most people would say yeah, of course, who doesn’t want to be self-sufficient”
But seriously, “self-sufficiency” seems like a Juche Korean buzzword. The real heart of the Juche Ideology is the worship of Kim Il Sung and his divine line. So far, it has served wonders for the Korean race.
> “If I recall correctly, Caeser believes that Greco-Roman pederasty is not homosexual because young boys can often look a bit effeminate…”
Honestly, I don’t remember Chechar’s rationalisation – his main argument was that paederasty freed some youth from abusive parents anyway. Your line of thinking is more about modern traps if anything – they indeed ape female aesthetics, often successfully so. The 4channers may say, “Imagine the smell” – but I will never encounter a femboy IRL, so I never tried.
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> “Imagine if Hitler and his surviving officers had run out of the bunker, weapons in hand, and charged defiantly at the Soviets.”
Uncle Adolf was too frail for that, and injury might have led to capture. Also, see my Morgoth quote – Goebbels himself was whining back in 1942 that Hitler stopped appearing in public, and thus he, Goebbels, had to conduct all PR speeches himself.
At the same time, if your side loses, no one is left to sing songs of your last stand. (Unless a queer Polish cuck appears half a millennium later.)
I feel uncomfortable with torture as well. There are certain individuals who I think deserve to be tortured, and I wouldn’t make any effort to spare them from torture. I just wouldn’t personally want to be the one to do it. I would prefer to kill my enemies quickly and just get it over with. I wouldn’t indulge in it.
I was only describing the Allies as the forces of entropy from the Nazi point of view. They are a mongrelized rabble, particularly the Soviets. As fighting force, they were functional enough. I wouldn’t say they were superior to the armed forces of the Third Reich, since they only achieved victory due to their numerical superiority. If the war had solely been fought between Germany and Russia, I think Germany would probably have won.
I would say, regarding the Christianized whites worshipping negroes and the Muslim women fasting during pregnancy, that the fear of eternal damnation motivates people to do all sorts of crazy things. Fear is the oldest tool of power.
I wanted you to take a look at this. It was written back in 2014, during the annexation of Crimea. The author is himself a Russian, as far as I know. I wondered how much of it you would agree with. I found it very interesting, particularly the war between Muscovy and the Novgorod Republic.
> “There are certain individuals who I think deserve to be tortured”
I hope, it’s the 90% of the most stupid normies? Or some sentimental nonsense? The only feature I ever value in humans is their intellectual honesty.
> “I would prefer to kill my enemies quickly and just get it over with. I wouldn’t indulge in it.”
And this is precisely where I and Savitri Devi disagree heartily. Savitri’s Bhagavad-Gita-derived conception of an SS-man is devoid of sensual desire to kill; I, however, fail to grasp how one may ever become one with the force he worships without a great emotion. But hey, my idea is the Nietzschean life-affirmation via amor fati, not this idiotic sensualist care for the non-human welfare. I only engage with the vegetarian morons because Hitler was one – says a lot about the Aryan race’s mental capacity.
> “I was only describing the Allies as the forces of entropy from the Nazi point of view.”
I consider the 1941-45 USSR to be identical to Hitlerian Germany. Action & counter-action. It takes one to know one.
> “…they only achieved victory due to their numerical superiority.”
Those numbers were arrived at after the German blunders. You’re confusing the cause and effect.
> “Fear is the oldest tool of power.”
For braindead normies, it is among the instruments indeed. But your argument was about pleasure and its role – I would retort that both pleasure and pain are designated by culture with a specific aim, not arbitrarily by nature. Sure, nature selects the best memes, but a variety springs into existence.
> “It was written back in 2014, during the annexation of Crimea.”
1. White Nationalism wields no political or terrorist power, it is a non-entity.
2. Current Russian standard of living is merely the future of the West – Russia died in 1991, America is still limping along. Christianity’s method of murder is merely different.
3. “why don’t we see Muslims as allies” > because the WNs are a fraud. You are either with the Asians, or with Yerushalayim.
4. Muscovy is more Aryan than the Turkified Ukraine.
5. I never understood this slavish veneration of Europe. Europe is full of Christcucks who went nuclear in the 19th century. Its only achievement is the nuclear bomb.
6. > “…the Bolshevik Revolution was a revolt of the culturally and/or racially non-European masses against the European elite.”
Unfortunately, these Scythians lost their bloodlust long before I was born – or I wouldn’t be rotting in this wretched capitalist country. There’s nothing wrong with revolt – just impart your hatred of foreigners to your children. Marxism was the most peaceful ideology in history.
7. The only thing good about the current Russian culture is some semblance of sexism and casual racism – even though you can’t autistically relay your thoughts in an orderly manner, like a Westerner would.
8. As I wrote before, Putin is a traitor preparing Russia for NATO occupation.
8. Concluding Remarks
A planetary Aryan empire is only possible when one Aryan nation genocides all others. Fuck this pacifist tail-wagging. Unfortunately, we have the article I wrote above dealing with this subject.
All Aryan nations are comatose, all cadres are missing. When America dies, I’d put my money on Poland, or what remains of it (again, see the map above).
Whenever I see “Poland” I only think of this meme
Ditto. Regarding Poland, I speak with the caveat – only after the demise of Christian America may there arise a hope for true sovereignty. To me, Poland is mere meat – 35 million relatively Aryan people crammed into a compact locality. Regarding their hatred of Russia – it will be inconsequential, considering that Russia is dead, as the 2022 war has shown. (Previously, this did give me pause, as having two relatively-equal European nations might prove disastrous.)
Still, all that is conjecture. For the time being, we are decomposing.
Expanding on the previous comment, I would concur with the general stance of European racists on Russia – it was prominent before 1917 due to being in a large part controlled by the Baltic German élite, before 1991 – for having a half-decent religion (Marxism), and now Russia is the same corpse as any other Aryan country east of the Elbe, equally as self-hating and impotent. Merely substitute the Negro/Paki worship for the Turk, and the General Lee statue vandalism for Lenin removal and decommunisation laws, and the symmetry is complete.